Graduated with law degree (UK). My dream is to become an actor. Only acting experience is studying drama as a GCSE in school. I recognise that I'll need a job while I pursue acting. My plan currently is to self teaching programming and get a job as a software developer while also taking acting classes along the way. Is this doable? I know common opinion is I should get a law job but I really detest this idea. Alternatively I could work as a waiter or something but that wouldn't pay well and it's not stable.
i’ve been trying to find acting coaches who’ve trained people like timothee chalamet, leonardo dicaprio, zendaya, millie bobby brown, and jenna ortega. those are my favorite actors to name a few, but i can’t seem to find the actual people they train with.
Not a voice actor myself, but during this allergy season i've noticed i can get a low guttural sound by resonating the mucus in my throat. A bit disgusting yes, but it sparked my curiosity, as i could get MUCH lower than i normally could.
I’m a fresh voice over actor. I need to make my own commercial VO. Any advice on what to put on it? Do I make my own original material for it or do I use anything that existing online? Thank you in advance :-)
Hey all — I’m curious what the typical day rate on Ultra Low is for my talent filming one scene lasting a couple hours for capture? I see on the website that the minimum is $211, but what have you been paid typically for Ultra Low projects? Would you pass at the $211 offer?
Hi all! I am trying to find two female and one male actor in New York. I would have figured this would be a lot easier but honestly not sure where to start. Not sure how to access student talent either. Any advice would be much appreciated!
It seems like every chance I get to move away from my town to somewhere with more opportunities just blows up in my face. The kind of failure when the privilege of even trying is taken away from me. Of course, I will keep on trying but now it happened for the second time in the same year and to say I feel crushed would be an understatement. I was supposed to go study acting in the UK but the college suddenly raised tuition fees due to Brexit and I couldn't afford it anymore and I looked for scholarships. Then I said what the hell, I can try study theatre directing in the capital city of my country and I thought the entry exam would be in September, like it is for the acting course, but turns out it's this month and even though I began working on my entry exam project, I just didn't and still don't have nearly enough time to complete it with all the obligations related to getting a bachelor degree this year (in English and Italian), work and theatre projects I don't get paid for. I mean, I can try next year and I'm only 22 but it's so hard seeing people around me make it and already start building careers at my age or younger while I still haven't even moved away. And I try to be happy for them, but I also hate that they have certain financial or other privileges that I don't. Sometimes talent and hard work doesn't feel like it makes a difference. I'll still go to the acting entry exam in September, but I honestly hate being an actor in this culturally desolate country. And since I plan on moving abroad anyway and applying for US green card lottery this year (I try not to think of my shit luck so far when thinking of this), I'm also thinking of sticking it out in my town for another year or two, maybe even get a master's degree in translation to have a more secure profession while trying to make it, and save money for when I finally make the big move abroad happen. But I really thought I'd be out of here by now and I'm still not. I guess I can still prepare for next year's entry exam. And I know failure is all a part of siccess and blah blah but I genuinely don't feel like I'm moving despite my efforts.
I know with actor's equity, there is a minimum salary an actor can receive. Does anyone know if there are Actor's Equity rules about salaries based on the size/kind of role? I read about salaries on the Actor's Equity site, but I didn't see any specific information regarding this.
Just wondering where most of your audition notices are coming in from? For those that have agents, is it Actors Access cmail, CN, or direct email from them? For this that don't, is it just Cmail and CN? Thanks in advance!
Hi there! I will keep this short and sweet. I want to move to Atlanta for my acting career, but the surrounding area is quite large and offers a plethora of options--I'm suffering from analysis paralysis. I've heard some different arguments for which area is good and why, but only so many, and I'd like more info. Some specific questions I had in mind: how far is too far from central Atlanta? Should I be inside the perimeter? Are there any areas that aren't safe? As a starting actor, is it worth it to pay less rent, but live farther away? Thanks in advance!
Every actor from my theater dept ive talked to is all "everything is a mystery, and no i wont give any actual help" and every actor in the few on camera acting classes are like "heres what i know and good luck, its weird man"
hi, i’m a 16 year old who wants to get into acting; i’m looking for some open casting calls for jobs in europe, but i’m having trouble finding ones that fit my age and location (preferably for horror, fantasy, thriller, or science fiction projects). any help would be appreciated:)
Hello, I'm directing a music video for a metal band, and I'm looking for an actress who can provide a creepy, slow motion, ballet type dance, such as a witch in the forest that's wearing some sort of dress, cloak, or robe. Actual dance experience not required. I'm putting together this project myself, so while the budget isn't huge, there still is a budget and we can negotiate the price in more detail through messages. I'm also willing to pay for any sort of clothes required for the video. Looking for someone with their own camera that has some sort of slow motion setting, but really any modern camera should work. The ideal location would be in a forest, but I am open to any other ideas. Thanks to anyone who can help out!
So I was wondering if it is possible to become an actor in the USA as a german because of the dialect.
Hello Reddit! I thought it would be a good idea to ask like-minded people on this subreddit a question I have about acting, and if the general public thinks I’m heading in someone of a right direction with my goal. My goal is to become an action star and be in action movies. It’s been something I’ve been doing since I was a young kid, but I solidified it into a major goal recently and want to take definitive steps towards it. As of writing this, I’ll be an upcoming junior in college studying English, and I’ll be leaving the country to study abroad for a few months. I’ve done theater for the past seven years, and I’d say that has been doing a great job together gathering experience/credentials. I have also been doing martial arts ever since I was four years old. I’m thankful that I have a family figure who acted in the theatre as well, and they’re giving me lessons on things like the Meisner technique, so I can shape up my acting skills and be better versed. There are people who break through the industry not only by auditioning, but by modeling, stuntman training, and the like. Mark Wahlberg is a pretty good example, with his famous Calvin Klein ad. Another example, Jean Claude Van Damme (one of my favorite martial arts actors) for example, is originally from Belgium, and he had a quite a few odd jobs here and there in the United States. I believe he began as an extra, and he was apart of Chuck Norris’s stuntman team for a while and even trained with him. He ended up getting a movie role in the late 80s, but his big break was a Bloodsport at 27 years old (1988). I am aware that this was more than 40 years ago, and the world of acting 40 years ago does not revolve the same way it does today, as customs change and processes evolve. I feel like other people who have similar goals as me are doing things that I should be doing right now, and I feel like I should fill the gap by doing something important to be one step closer to attaining my goals. In order to reach my goal, what would be some advice from you guys in terms of the next step/what should I be doing? Thank you, I like to think of myself as having an open mind, so I’ll take any helpful feedback that I can…
Hi guys! I’m a Canadian actor with currently no rep. Do US agents/managers accept Canadian talent on their rosters? Please let me know if you have any knowledge about this! Thank you!!
I’ve been acting for a little bit over 3 years in the Orlando market and I just recently flew to Atlanta for an acting workshop hosted by Rhavynn Drummer. Since then, I’ve been thinking really hard about moving to Atlanta. I have an agent in Orlando but I know many actors/actresses here that have both Orlando and Atlanta representation. It just seems to me like those individuals have more opportunities to book appearances on tv shows and movies (which they have).
I got an eco cast request and they said don’t submit if you’re not free Tuesday! I’m not free Tuesday until the late afternoon so I’m just trying to verify that with them before I put the time into a self tape! Is there a way to message them from the eco cast directly?
Really looking for advice and have questions about my career/whether I should switch/seek out new reps - I have representation in NYC, a few professional credits, graduated with a BFA, and I just moved to LA. I'm feeling a bit stuck and lost. Anyone know any reputable places for this kinda thing? Does it even exist?
I’ve heard a lot of people give advice on working on film crews to advance your acting career (through networking and whatnot). There are stories like Chris Pine getting people coffee onset, as a crew member, when he was starting out. The thing they fail to mention is that his grandmother and father were both rather successful actors. What is your opinion on advancing your acting career through crew work? Have you successfully done it or know anyone who has? Acting has always been a “who you know” business but I’ve also heard people say “Once you get into the crew side of things, you’re stuck there.” I can certainly understand both points but also know that crewing is grueling work and doesn’t leave much left for a father of 2 young kids, in his early 40s aka me. I bring this up because I was just laid off of my office job of 4 years. I’m a fairly new transport to the tri-state area, so I have friends and family (who don’t necessarily have experience in the movie business) suggest that I do something like an AD training program in NYC or to get hired as a crew driver (I know someone who does this). Opinions? Edit: Forgot to mention that I’m not new to acting or the industry, just new to a market as major as NYC. I had an agent for 20 years when I lived in the Southwest prior to moving here.
Will keep this short. I'm a non-union actor who just signed a New Media contract as part of an ongoing web series (I am joining an established project / cast and taking over one of the principle roles). All my previous credits are non-union projects / roles. Does this new job mean I will be SAG-Eligible? Thanks!
Hi, I’m a fairly novice voice actor, but I’m trying to do everything I can to get practice and experience in the industry. I recently got a call back on an audition and they asked for a sample of me dubbing over some footage. I have no experience dubbing, and I have some neurological conditions that make processing audio I hear a bit tricky. Does anyone have any tips that would make things easier to record this, short of manually isolating the single character’s dialogue? Thanks so much!!!
Hello fellow actors, I am getting ready to submit to agents here in Toronto and just had a quick question. How do I know how many headshots to include in my submission email? Do I just send my best one or do I send 3 (1 for film, 1 for commercials and 1 other one) or can I submit all 6 I have? Thanks for your help in advance.
First time poster here. I posted this on another FB page but no one answered so maybe I’ll get more help here. Hi all! I can't believe it but an agency actually got ahold of me and would like to do a phone interview! This agency is a big one in town. I will be speaking to the president of the company (not a specific agent) as more of an informational chat and for me to ask any questions. They represent actors, models, hand/feet talent, and voice over talent. They are are on the SAG-AFTRA franchised agents list. What are some good questions to ask this agency? This is my first conversation and I saw a lot of questions previously asked were for specific agents. Thank you!
Hi there, I hope I'm not breaking any rules by posting this, but here goes: I'm working on an indie First-Person Shooter game and I'm looking to get some custom audio recordings for my main character. Currently I'm using sounds from an old video game and I want to swap them out for new ones. The sounds I need are basic character reactions to things in-game. So things like getting hit, taking damage, grunting when jumping, and screaming/choking/wheezing when getting killed. All in all, I need about 30 samples - about 6 versions in 5 different categories of sound. Things like, taking damage, grunting, getting killed, taking a deep breath etc. For an example of my game, and to hear some examples of the placeholder sounds I'm currently using, check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52iYV5iPeCA&t= The weapon sounds are all handmade by me, to give you an idea of my level of quality. If anybody is interested, please hit me up and we can have a chat about costs and where to go from here. Feel free to send me examples if you like, and then we can come up with a price/delivery plan. At the moment, my rough ballpark for these sounds would be about $150US for all of them, so long as they hit a level of quality that fits the project. If you have the right voice for the job, putting it all together shouldn't take more than an hour or two, so this price feels fair. A few more technical requirements: - The audio must be high quality (perferably 44.1k 24-bit WAVs) with no reverb or discernible echo. Please, no dodgy bedroom recordings on an iPhone. - The audio samples themselves will only be a second or so in length. - I need a male voice that sounds pretty gruff / coarse, like your prototypical solider in a video game. Thanks for your time, and please get in touch if you feel like you'd be a good fit for this project!
I was watching A Few Good Men the other night and was mesmerized by Jack Nicholson's and Tom Cruise's performance. Their anger towards each other seemed so genuine and pure which got me thinking: do you think actors ever take their scripted arguments/fights personally? Like they get so lost in their character that they forget they're not actually fighting and naturally feel a bit of anger towards the other actor after the scene?
Here's one last question that may sound a bit odd and not everyone will be comfortable being open about but do any of you (willing to divulge so) have any mental health issues that you have to juggle while being an actor? For instance, I have social anxiety, panic disorder, seasonal depression and type 1 Bipolar. The anxiety I might be able to cope with but the stress of pursuing acting might cause mood instability with my Bipolar, triggering mania or depression. By any chance do any of you have any of these mental struggles and if so, how do you manage dealing with them/their impact while pursuing your career? I was surprised to learn that many rather big name actors have Bipolar. I'm not sure how they do it.
I had a small (but seemingly important) part in a short film recently and it got me my first IMDB credit, which I was just ecstatic about. It felt like I had made a mark in my career. I liked seeing that I was ‘known for’ something. I went to check the IMDB page recently and found out I was no longer on the cast list. My page also said I had 0 credits. I know I’m not owed at explanation, but this was kinda a rough way to find out, plus I thought I had really bonded with the director as I was the only actor on set that day. Should I email him to ask/confirm? The release date is not until 2023 (last time I had checked it was actually 2022 which is interesting) so I could just wait it out. Maybe I should just move on, but not having an reason is really bugging me. I’d at least like to ask if I could get some footage for my reel, which I was told I would get sent but never did.
I would like to form a Shakespearean acting company when I grow up (with contemporary plays and musicals too ofc) and I can’t stop worrying about it. I don’t want to be that person who get straight out of their bfa program and starts one, I’d get some years of working as in actor and being part of a company under my belt first to make sure I know exactly what I’m doing. I’d take business and branding courses through collage along with my acting studies… I’ll be prepared. I’m also very lucky to have financially well off parents who are willing to support me. I’m not expecting it to be the next RSC or anything like that… even if it’s small that’s fine, as long as it’s a running theater. I know it’s still difficult but I want to stop worrying about it all the goddamn time, i’m 14 lol
Ik there’s like a trillion posts a day asking the same thing. But like. I’m dumb af sooo
Always wondered whether those actors working on the big movies / shows actually do the nitty-gritty scene analysis? You often hear actors in interviews talking about getting into character, or feeling their way into the role with the director. But rarely do you hear about them doing the intellectual table stuff. Does Joaquin Phoenix really break down scenes into beats, and find objectives, verbs and the like? Do we think this is all done automatically by the great actors? Would love to hear a discussion on this; or links to actors talking about their scene analysis work. It seems to only exist within those going school or in class (and usually they are those who aren't 'at the top').
Basically, what makes an actor competitive in LA? I’m trying to plan for the future. Brief background: NC actor with 1 year studio training. I graduate in 1 year with a non-acting degree that has great employment & earning potential. Let’s say by the time I graduate I have 2 years training (different methods, on-screen emphasis, improv, combat), professional headshots, and a demo reel with some student and indie film credits. Would it be best to: 1. stay in NC and try to get signed 2. move to ATL to try and get signed because it’s the biggest market near me 3. take the plunge and move to LA People at my studio have had luck in ATL. My concerns are that I could waste time making connections in NC or ATL that could be beneficial but nowhere near LA potential. Another concern is that some student and indie films on my resume will not be competitive in LA. Is that true? If I got signed to an NC agent and managed some small TV roles is that considerably better? Or even moved to ATL for a year or two then LA? I know there’s no one right answer but I’d like to know if there are less favorable answers. What makes a “good” reel? Is it whatever shows your best capabilities or also impressive credits like Union projects? Thank you for reading. Anything I’m not thinking of please feel free to add.
So I want to be an actor - mostly doing Shakespeare but with some musical theater. I know you can go to drama school in the UK (I’m US based) and you can also study drama at regular college. But if you decide to go the “regular college” route, can you still do specifically classical acting, and do you just major or do you audition to get into a special program??? This is all very confusing to me haha. Also - BA vs BFA vs MA? What’s all that? I would like to double major if possible, I’m super interested in Shakespearean scholarship so doing English or Philosophy as a double major would be great, but can you do those while being in a theater program in a normal college? Thanks!
Hi there, I'm looking to collaborate with voice actors/actresses on a 90 second art short film project entitled 'My c\*\*t' for Encounters Film Festival 'depicts' competition. A vulgar, satirical poem matched with animation. Unfortunately the position is unpaid due to it being a no-budget project, simply for the love of it. If interested please message me for more details, I'm Sam (she/her) writer and director looking to collaborate with some like-minded performers.
Hello friends, it's been a very long time since I acted, around 5-7 years. A lot of the reason was because I was discovering who I was. And only in the past year have I begun transitioning. All my previous works and performances were pre-transition, as a cis-male, and now I am not sure how to approach things as a trans woman. I know I need new headshots and to technically get out there again, but I need to know what the best online resources may be. The pandemic kinda hit me hard, especially with the socialness of it all but my confidence and love for the art came flooding back when I became "me". I know Backstage is a thing, and ActorsAccess but I am not sure which one would be best for a newly out trans girl. I don't want to be a "superstar" I am in it for the art's sake, and maybe pocket some good money. As a male it was kind of easy-to-get roles, but I am afraid of how trans-women are treated in the industry. If there are any LGBTQ+ actors and actresses that might have a bit of insight, I would greatly appreciate it. Sorry if the post is all over the place.(>w<)
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I turned 18 a few months ago, I've always wanted to become an actor and experience what I've seen others do on the shows and movies I've watched. Ever since I was little I've wanted to become an actor but I was shy and couldn't even imagine opening up about that sort of thing to my grandma or mom, they haven't even done anything remotely close to acting so I would have to start the journey from the bottom which is super fine I told my grandma about my career and she was excited for me because I never had a direction for my career in my life I was 15 going on 16 and really looking forward but then Covid hit and I had to do online school and sit in the house all day this let me to really look at my insecurities, I have insecurities about my face, mainly my nose which is somewhat deviated and my smile and teeth as well as my jaw which are a little bit shifted to the right side of my face, I can live with my teeth and mouth but my nose really bothers me and I feel like the only comfortable way is to speak to a professional about it. It took a lot for me to post this on here but It also feels like I'm lifting a weight off my back I'm not really open with my mom or grandma about said insecurities but it did feel good to post this :). I have no acting experience other than watching a ton of movies and tv shows I really want to get a start but I have no idea how too will anyone help me with any of my questions I live in Florida but may be moving back to New Jersey depends how I feel I do plan on making a youtube channel to express my passions in my life and become an entertainer as well because I've had a passion for gaming as well in my life and I now want to make acting a new passion. Can someone give me some Direction for my start <3? Anything is Appreciated If we can talk in the comments that would be great :).
Ok this is kind of a long story so bear with me. Back in March, I got an agent REALLY LUCKILY. I only had 3 student film credits to my name, and this agency only takes pretty established actors that have co-stars or are SAG-eligible. However, I met the agent at a school networking event and because we really got along and shared the same alma mater, she decided to take a risk on me and took me under her wing. I was ecstatic. Flash forward two months, and I still had gotten 0 auditions from her. I was really worried, so I contacted her 2-3 times through text asking if I should be worried I didn't get auditions, what to do, etc. etc. She reassured me and said everything was fine, she was submitting me, don't worry. Then in the first week of May I got two auditions, and the next week, I got one. Things were picking up and I was ecstatic. Anyways, then I booked an unpaid short film on my own but I thought it might be kind of sketchy so I asked my agent about the contract. She said she would get back to me tomorrow about it, and I asked if we could call at 2PM. She said yes, but then did not pick up the phone and didn't show any interest in calling. The next day, I finally just made the decision on my own and decided not to go for it. I told her and she just responded with "ok." and then I said I would still love her feedback as to whether I made the right decision and she read it but did not respond. Flash forward a week, and I still hadn't got an audition from her (so it's been about 3 weeks without an audition at that point), so I texted her asking if I should be worried. She responds with "sigh...really?" and I told her I'm not sure if that meant she was surprised I haven't, or whether she was annoyed I was asking. And if so, I apologize but I just don't really know industry standard of how much to contact an agent and like how many auditions I should be expecting. (She read this and did not respond). I asked around all my friends and they said that its unusual to not get an audition for 3 weeks, but at the same time, I am a beginner? so Idk. I just wanted reassurance but I don't know if that came off as insulting and insecure. Now, I'm super worried as to where our relationship stands and whether she's decided to just unofficially drop me. I'm also just kicking myself because I don't know if I was too needy and whether May/June is just a lull and if I should have just waited it out without contacting her about the lack of auditions. Like, I can't tell if my contacting her just ruined something that would not have been a big deal if I just waited it out. I've also heard from other people who used to be with her that she doesn't really tell you when she's "done" with you, she's unconfrontational, so she just kind of ghosts you and you stop getting auditions. Do I start looking for new agents? How do I fix this? Am I overthinking all of this?
Are there any updates on this? I've seen this idea being tossed around in the past, now with their yearly rates almost reaching $300 a year it seems inevitable. The website is a mess and the customer service is either non-existent or outsourced. I really wish casting directors would just boycott it and use Casting Frontier or Actors Access. The problem would be resolved so fast.
Hello im a 17 y/o and i've done a couple of voice acting videos or even voice overs, but i think im missing le coup d grace. I think my voice acting skills could be a little better so if anyone is willing to give me some tips i would gladly appreciate it!
Hi all — I’m a filmmaker currently in talks with people at CAA and UTA to cast a few actors for my short. I have several incredible actors that want to read the screenplay and their agents are asking for an offer. That said - is it fine if I mention the other that are reading and may be involved? As long as I'm truthful and share they haven't locked in fully yet? I'm just not sure the "rules" of courtesy, but I do know if were an actor I'd have more hope for a project if I knew others that might be part of the packaged project.
Hey there, I m curious to know if there's any truth to this rumor I heard about film studios in LA/ US not recognizing 01b actor visas from Canada and only hiring you if you have a green card? Can anyone elaborate on this if there's any truth to this? Thanks
Hi Reddit, I’m a 32 year old woman considering getting an MFA next year. I’ve auditioned for programs a couple of times, will be getting a coach and working my bum off to get into a program in 2023. I would love to hear of any other older actors especially those identifying as women and your experience completing your MFA in your early-mid 30s? Also, how you balanced other commitments like family, spouse, ageism etc. I know it’s possible. Would love some first hand experiences! Thanks!
Hi Reddit, I’m a 32 year old woman considering getting an MFA next year. I’ve auditioned for programs a couple of times, will be getting a coach and working my bum off to get into a program in 2023. I would love to hear of any other older actors especially those identifying as women and your experience completing your MFA in your early-mid 30s? Also, how you balanced other commitments like family, spouse, ageism etc. I know it’s possible. Would love some first hand experiences! Thanks!
Hi everyone. I'm not an actor myself but find it fascinating in many ways. One thing I've noticed when watching TV or movies is that actors seem to hardly ever blink and it looks like they're always focused on another actor's right eye. Am I overthinking this or are actors trained to try not to blink and might also be trained to look into a fellow actors one eye and nowhere else? It might just be my imagination though I'm not sure. I know it's a goofy question and apologize but am certainly curious about it. Thanks for your time :)
I’m new to LA. I’m in search for an acting school that actually cares about the actor and is passionate about teaching. From what I’ve noticed, 90% of these schools are all after money and they don’t care about anything else. Can ANYONE PLEASE suggest me an acting school, teacher, institute that they’ve attended that I can actually learn from and become a better actor.
I firmly believe that I have a unique look...and an ability to hit levels of intensity and passion others can't. My look is most likely a pigeon hole..I'm ok with that. I'm just trying to find a way to be a part of film in any way using these "traits" I have. I also believe whole heartedly...if I had a chance to show emotional range in a show like s.o.a. or a super underrated movie like hellride, I could have a chance. Any advice from this community would be unbelievably appreciated. Just looking for a starting point. Thank you to anyone who reads this. And good luck on your own journey!
My whole life I told everyone I wanted to be a mechanical engineer. My parents know I am going to become an engineer, and have already taken the A-level subjects that are for engineering. However I have just now realized my potential, my talent and my passion for acting. I have not done any acting activities in or out of school, but I feel like I am naturally good at acting. I am also a bit afraid to open up to my parents about this, because I feel like they will try to talk me out of it as it is a risky path to take. I want to meet new people in the acting industry and strive with them. This is my dream. What should I do? Should I tell my parents about this sudden shift in careers? Should I continue with engineering for income to invest in getting into acting, for example work as an engineer to help afford drama school, etc. I am very passionate about this and I know I am going to succeed. Thank you so much! :)
I am not an actor or actress However I had to post this Why is it that actors feel the need to stutter, especially during dramatic or emotional scenes?? Its so overdone imo that I get kind of annoyed watching it. It just lunges out of the screen - an “I’m acting btw” giveaway… especially when it’s not only one actor doing it in a scene but multiple I feel a bit triggered whenever I hear something like “but I- I-“ ,” bu-bu but “, etc.
How has it affected your acting? I’m trying to get mental health treatment and I think I’m gonna start medication and I was wondering how it’s affected other people and their work? Tbh I’m scared how it’ll affect my work, but I need to get on medication to live like a functioning person. Is there anyone who has experienced this? I’m afraid of fogginess, lack of creativity, and the weight gain people talk about.
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