I would like to know your experience working as an actor/actress in India, how hard it was to get an agent or gigs - thanks!
Hello, Do actors have preferred roles? Like, roles which are easier and more satisfying for them to take? Kind regards.
We see a lot of cynicism on this sub, from a lack of auditions to complaining about "nepo babies" and self tapes, and while I definitely get it, I'd like to hear some more positive success stories. One reason is I believe it might be working out for me. I know it's a different path for everyone, but I'd like to compare what it's like becoming a working actor after dedicating some time to it. I graduated from my local college with a degree in theater 11 years ago and moved to Atlanta. I have worked multiple part time jobs, having as many as five at one time. For a long time I couldn't regularly afford class, but got in when I could. For the first few years I did any project I could, mostly community theater around the metro area, but also extra work, entertaining at kids birthday parties and school assemblies, student films, web series, a murder mystery dinner theater. I was able to take six months of a film acting class and from there decided to switch my focus. I made friends with a local independent filmmaker who shoots material for actor reels and hired him. He was impressed with the scene we shot and referred me to his agent. It was mostly a kid's agency with a couple famous names, but it proved to be a foot in the door. I booked a supporting part in an independent horror film starring a B movie star (that eventually found its way to Netflix) and a costar on an Investigation Discovery crime show, as well as several call-backs, mainly for commercials. I was averaging 1-3 auditions a week, but after about six months that dropped to one or two a month, and some months without any. It would be a year and a half before I booked a series of animated commercials I did voice over for in the lead role that aired on Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon. There was a three year period where I didn't book anything but the occasional head shot pull (glorified extra roles), or the rare call-back. It drove me crazy waiting for the next audition, and usually when I got them I felt like they didn't fit me. I was a little later in life graduating from college at age 26, and not landing my agent until age 30. But I kept getting auditions for middle aged guys. However, I kept going, and around 2019 into early 2020, I got several call-backs in a row. Then shutdowns happened and slower everything down... except I continued to get auditions. Not many, but they were coming in. I decided to use my COVID money to get into online classes and stay there regularly (what else was I gonna do?), and eventually pay for some really professional headshots. By late 2020 my auditions were up. Now I was getting three or four auditions per a month as opposed to just one. In 2021 as unemployment was running out I decided I wanted to be on set as much as possible and started doing extra work and student films again. As long as it paid I was there. To my surprise I was actually making enough to scratch together a living. Not only that, I was getting featured in a lot of the shots very prominently. I hadn't done student films in years, but I booked a few leads. In addition to that I booked seven head shot pulls through my agent, and by the end of the year a couple speaking parts in non-Union commercials. Last year I got with a more prominent agency, got FAR more auditions than I've ever had and booked three times, a supporting part in an independent feature, and two costars, including a Tyler Perry show. The auditions I get are now mostly Union costars, 1-3 a week again. Part of the reason is I believe I'm aging into my casting. CDs have wanted me to be middle aged for a while now, and at 37 that's starting to become more appropriate for me. But I've also just been doing this for a long time. The degree in theater and classes have all added up over the years. I've read a billion acting books. And I've auditioned for everyone in town at least once at this point. I feel like it's starting to work out. Inevitably there will be slow periods, but also inevitably I'll continue to book *some* things. I'm still non-Union, but my credits are adding up, and eventually I plan to become a SAG-AFTRA member. With any luck I'll get to the point where I book enough a year to get healthcare and save for retirement. If not, I do really well at the high end restaurant I work at and that pays the bills nicely. What say you, /r/acting? How does your story compare? Am I on the edge of "making it"? Is there such a thing?
Hi. I'm learning technique and about taking on an "action" for my character and exploring that physical and emotional action. My character is a criminal, killer who is being interrogated by police. Can someone give me advice on best actions to explore and embody? Would it be "denying" by using body language to deny what I'm being accused of? Or "hiding"? Would you have a better physical action under this circumstance you can suggest? Or am I in the right direction? Thanks so much, actors!
We are looking for a Voice Over artist who can replicate Foxys voice. **Job Role: Voice-Over Actor** **Offer: $20 - 40$ per hour (depending on experience)** Skills and Requirements: * Must be 18 years or older. * Must be able to replicate Foxy’s voice (she is the purple fox character). Please see [this short clip](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ksZFWZkOeS5OnM6xGxZrRW10aZLNOpN8/view?usp=share_link) as a sample - it should be very quick to judge if they can make a similar voice or not. It does not have to match exactly, but it should be similar. Most people who can voice Foxy can also voice Boxy. But matching Foxy’s voice is the most important. * Experience with the Adobe suite of products is a huge bonus. * Premiere Pro (video editing) * Audition (audio recording) * Photoshop (graphic design, etc) * Drawing/any other skills * Experience or familiarity with V-Tubers or voice acting in a non-traditional setting is a huge bonus. Many voice actors have worked in commercials and film/TV, but this is too formal. People who are familiar with internet culture are a huge bonus. * Having their own content channel is a huge bonus. If they run their own Twitch stream, and have their own YouTube channel based around Voiceover, or similar, that is a major bonus. * Here are 2 examples of Voice Actors who have their own channels: * [https://www.youtube.com/@AipacalypseVA/videos](https://www.youtube.com/@AipacalypseVA/videos) * [https://www.youtube.com/@shishishiena](https://www.youtube.com/@shishishiena) * They both have a clear understanding of internet culture and seem to have other skills, like singing/drawing, etc.
Some backgroud: I love authentic arts whether it be books like Dune, music like The Doors, movies as mentiond and games like Silent Hill 2. All my life I thought I'd become a successfull computer science business man like my dad but now I realize that I have very little passion for computers, science or any field that is extremely percise and measured to perfection. In my short life I have gone through great amounts of physical, mental, and even spiritual pain; an interesting outcome is my ability to daydream tragic scenarios whether real, imaginary or probable and sink in them so deep I can start crying. I believe that going to train profesionally in a drama school can teach me how to become an emotional athlete, as Al Pacino said regarding the method. Ideally as a method actor my performance would be praised for the emotions it generates within the audience, and not so much as to whether I ate a raw bison liver or gone through extreme weight change to deliver my performance. When I was a child I had the opportunity to practice dancing, play on 3 instruments and I was a great swimmer. Nowadays one of my favorite activities is having exciting conversations with people whether it be my family, classmates or the women I date; I hate being boring and talking about banal subjects so I always lean into either very meaningful deep dialogue or ludicrous nonsense talking. With all of that being said, I feel that I have some of the standing pillars needed to pursue a career in acting. Maybe not enough to become the next One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest's Oscar winner but perhaps enough to play an institutionalized member of society. There are many factors I'm worried about getting into acting though, like: not being breed for it from an early age, modern Hollywood, modern movies and modern audiences to an extent. The fact I don't live in the US is also not ideal for this profession, especially when my ambition here is to play specifically in the American film industry. I am not a perfect NPC looking guy you can stick in every commercial for diapers so hyphothetically speaking if I pursue a career in acting my selling point as an actor would be my ability to act. And I worry of ending up in a saturated job market with more supply than demand which will seal the gates to my dream of doing serious method acting and instead I'd have to do gigs all my life (or just quit acting). I know the moderators said there are no stupid questions but I feel like this is a stupid post so accept my apologies and go watch 9½ *Weeks* if you haven't yet, this great piece of acting should erase this awfully long essay from your memory, hopefully.
My fiancée and I moved to NYC summer of last year for her to continue her career as a stage actress. She was working professionally with local theaters in Phoenix and wanted to try her hand in the New York scene. I always wanted to live in New York for at least a few years and it was easy for me to take my job here so we both were excited to try out life in the Big Apple. We've lived in NYC for a little less than a year now and are still enjoying our lives here. However she is having a hard time booking projects and growing her resume. We both were totally prepared for this - we had no delusions of landing a Broadway role overnight. But I can tell that not having much work is affecting her mood, mostly in the sense that she misses performing onstage and feels like she doesn't get to do what she loves as much here as she did at home. I know this is just how the industry is especially for someone new to the city who is still looking for representation. But I was wondering what I can do as her partner to keep encouraging her and support her emotionally while she finds her footing in the NYC acting scene. Maybe things like old hobbies she can pick up again, new routines she can get into, or other things she can enjoy while she's not performing? She also works part time as a nanny which I think helps her feel like she has something to due during the week. In terms of financial support we are pretty stable. My job allows me to cover most of the rent, utilities, and food. I wouldn't feel comfortable living somewhere we couldn't afford on one salary and I'd rather she invest her money on acting and singing lessons to further her career anyway. I'd love to identify some ways I could keep encouraging her and cheer her on finding opportunities to perform in addition to the financial support. Thanks in advance for any advice!
Let me preface by saying I have no experience in acting and I don’t really wanna become an actor. But this year I wanted to go outside my comfort zone and do something different and taking acting classes is what I decided on. Now with someone with no background is the first class going to be tough tonight, what should I expect? Thanks and I’m hoping I’m just gonna have fun but I’m a bit nervous as well.
Hi. Whenever I do a highly emotional scene, I also deal with the emotions I had within the scene for some time afterwards. For example I had a scene where I presented major depressive disorder and I was feeling it for a good 30 minutes. And I’m experiencing the same with my current scene which I portray a panic attack. Yes the emotion goes away if I “tap out” but it lingers as if it just really happened. I’m a meisner trained actor (over a year) now working uta hagen into my craft, developing my transferences and substitutions. Now that my acting has started feeling way more “real”, I deal with this stuff. Is this normal? Safe?
I recently finished reading 'How to Stop Acting' by Harold Guskin. I was originally recommended it because I was told it would help me get out of my head with my acting... But I am LOST. "Taking it off the page" seems to be a pretty straightforward exercise/technique with specific instructions that he gives, but other than that, I found that Harold Guskin seemed (at least to me) to contradict himself more than a few times. He mentions several times not to "memorize" the lines, but then he goes on to say that you basically must know them so well that they're engrained in you. And wouldn't repeating them as many times as he's asking you to lead to memorization? He also goes on about how you shouldn't make concrete decisions about the character, shouldn't over-research, and should try the lines in all different ways to see what fits, but then goes on to give examples of how he worked with professional actors and they made decisions and mapped out what characteristics and type of person that character is? I know that every technique can't be applicable to every actor, but it's bothering me that I read this whole book, which seemed to make a lot of good points, but now I'm more confused than inspired...
This post will hit you like a brick to the face. But it's ok. There's good news at the end. 2023 is around the corner and everyone is thinking about getting their plan together for the new year. All the acting gurus are hyping you up for "pilot season", telling you to \- get your headshots ready \- your reel ready \- and your outreach strategy laid out for the next "actor's run of the bulls" as I call it. (Thousands of actors mass submitting to a handful of mediocre roles they have almost no chance of booking..a necessary evil perhaps, but ouch. What a harsh reality.) Your new year's goals are probably: \- Get my brand together \- Get my assets together \- Get a better (or any) agent \- Audition more \- Network more. Guess what, that's what everybody is doing. Those are the basics of "the business of acting". That was new in 2013...It's 2023 now. You gotta step it up. Every single coach, guru and program is regurgitating the same fluff out there... But how many successful people do you know (in any industry) that got to the top by doing the same as everyone else? See, the gatekeepers in this industry want you to keep auditioning and sending in self-tapes so they have options. Makes their life easier. Hell, it makes my life easier. I can't even blame them for it. You're a commodity to them. Replaceable, disposable, just one of a million. They don't appreciate your position, talents and unique abilities. Why? They don't have to. There's enough actors out there. Don't get me started on casting directors (some of the most confused and pretentious people in Hollywood). They sit in their little home offices and expect you to nail a self-tape audition in 3 hours without any time to prepare, ask questions or get feedback. Then they get frustrated and complain when they get 500 submissions and have to watch a bunch of tapes that don't perfectly portray the character that even they have no clue who it is, until some random tape jumps out at them and they say "oh, that might make sense for this...let's see what the director thinks about that..." A puppet (Casting Director) looking for puppets (dependent actors) for a puppet master (director) who's controlled by a bigger puppet master (producer) who's controlled by the ultimate puppet masters (Studio or Financiers). Great - everyone's playing craps with your time. And you? You're there working your posterior of for these "safe-gamblers" who cast a wide net, but expect you to be perfectly branded and hope something good comes back quickly. Then they have an assistant spend 2 minutes looking and clicking through submissions and eventually pass on a short list of relatively safe bets to the director. (they always take the safest, most vanilla approach / bet so they don't lose their jobs. That's why nobody takes chances on new talent or directions) Oh and agents... gotta love them. They will solve all your problems right? Well, they are supposed to. But they don't. That's just the bottom line. 90% of agents have no value to you other than taking 10% of the money you make from gigs you book yourself. (I'm not saying all agents are bad...just almost all of them). Agents want you to already be making money before they even consider taking you on... Developing talent is dead. Nobody does it anymore. The only ones who do it are either brand new agents with no real connections because they are building up their own career, or massively successful agents, but only because they discover some diamond in the rough, randomly. The serendipitous decision to develop an artist out of seeing dollar signs comes from them. Not from someone asking them for help. Like how Charlize Theron was discovered in a bank while she was screaming at the teller...it's true...look it up. She was a failed dancer and a failed actor until then. It had nothing to do with her auditioning. So what does all this mean? It means that the people who's job it is to find and develop new talent don't want to and are not doing their jobs. How did we get to this point? We let them! They say, actors, you want the gig? This is what we require. Don't want it? Fine, don't do it! And actors do it... Thanks mr. second assistant to the casting director of the Utah division of a tiny cable show... You must feel really good up there on your high horse, dangling one-line co-star roles in front of talented artists as if they are lead roles on Marvel films. Oh and SAG-AFTRA, the union that's supposed to protect you, they don't do anything about this either. Well, they don't do much for you at all actually. Doesn't that make you feel warm and fuzzy inside too? So who really are your allies as an actor? If Agents are useless, Casting directors pretentious and inaccessible, and the union that's supposed to support you, doesn't really... Are you not tired of this ridiculous approach to a career ? The only ally you have is yourself. Sad, but true. Let's be real for a second. Let's stop pretending like nepotism isn't a thing in Hollywood. I'm guilty of it myself as a producer. Secret (that you may have noticed by now)... The good roles are not put up on actors access. The good roles are offered to actors that the filmmakers know or want directly, often before casting even starts. Larry David knew Julia Louis-Dreyfuss from their work at SNL together and he called her in for Seinfeld directly. We all know Johnny Depp made some calls for Amber Heard to be put in Aquaman. Adam Sandler loves working almost exclusively with his buddies. We can keep going all day here. Even I personally always think of who may be a good fit for my lead roles while developing a project. And almost all my friends who produce films call me and ask if I know a good "This, that or the other" actor. We don't really want to hire casting directors or post breakdowns if we don't have to and often hold off until we've exhausted all our options. No wonder 98%of actors don't earn a living with acting alone, even though there are more projects being produced than ever before in history. It's just the same handful of plugged-in actors being circulated amongst friends. And it's very hard to enter the circulation, even if you're relatively established. You're known as what you're known for. It's on you to break the mold. You should be getting much bigger pieces of that pie. But the solutions the gurus have for you out there are "Audition more!", "Get new headshots!", "Get an Agent"..."Network!" And while all that is - duh - obvious and the bare basics that you and every actor under the sun are and should be doing, it doesn't give you any real control over your future or your life and it does not create consistency or job security at all. But there's a lot that you CAN do about this. It's just not stuff that Hollywood insiders are helping you do because it would give you too much power. Well, they can go eat a stinky fish. Take the power. They've had it long enough. Warning, it's not for timid introverts who cringe if they need to step into public. This stuff is for the fewest of the few, actual apex predators out there. It's for adventurous, intuitive and inventive actors who are tired of living by other peoples rules and regulations. For explorers who want to do the work to set themselves free. To discover themselves and their full potential on their own terms. People who are not looking for tips, tricks and hacks, but to become true masters of the industry like Matt Damon, Eva Longoria, Tyler Perry, Kerry Washington and Sly Stallone. People who want to be on set a lot, playing roles they want to play, lead roles, important roles. Fulfilling roles and expanding careers beyond just acting alone. For you, there's a solution. It's called producing your own films. Make this the year that you take your power back. Daniel
I found a great new technique teacher and now I need to find a highly reputable advanced on-camera audition class populated by working actors, not newbies. The only ones I'm really familiar with are Freeman Studio (but what teachers are good for on-camera?), MN Acting Studio (again what teachers are the best), and Bob Krakower (who is impossible to get into the new student intro workshop, so pretty much irrelevant). What other reputable on-camera audition classes exist in the city? Preferably in person. Thank you.
Hey all! I’m actually pretty new to doing voice over work! I think I have a pretty good, upbeat voice for commercials and whatnot but I do think I need training still. I used to be a singer when I was younger so I’m familiar with the vocal warmups that we have to do to warm up our voice and keep it healthy. I wanted to get some tips on auditions and what should I do when I’m first starting out? I’m gonna attach the “demo ad” that I made on my phone below and you guys tell me what’s some things I should work on? Also, I don’t have professional equipment yet.
I'm 22M, and I am considering taking acting lessons. I have a small amount of acting experience from doing a few school plays in elementary, being in a friend's short film, and taking drama class in high school. I really enjoy acting, and I want to start pursuing it. I currently work a full time hybrid (3 days in office, 2 days work from home) 8-4 job, so I'm on available on evenings and weekends. I also live in a Canadian city that doesn't have much in the acting industry in terms of acting classes and auditions. There are a few acting schools around, but I don't know much about them. I've seen people suggest online acting schools, taught by people with extensive experience in the industry from casting directors to notable actors. However, in person, I would better be able to work on my posture, and movements. This would my first time taking acting class.
I \[18 M\] am doing my Majors/B.Tech in Mechanical Engineering alongside Minors in Computer Science Enigneering. Before I say anything, I just want to make it clear I have never acted before(not since primary school at least where I used to do theatrical acting). I am hella introverted, got alot of social anxiety, I'd probably faint if I am sent onto a stage for a public speech having a gathering of 100+ people. Well as of now I don't wish to pursue acting as a professional career but more like a hobby. It's just, it seems to be alot of fun from the looks of it, that's what I think. Of course there's going to be alot of tiring work to do and whatnot, but what career doesn't have any tiring work in it? I am just really bored and unhappy with what I am doing right now. It's just constant studying and exams and nothing else at all, I don't even have time to get off from my assignments and maybe do something else for fun and I don't think I'd be able to work as an Engineer in an Automotive Industry for my whole life, not happily at least. I just don't think I have actually found something that I like to do with my heart. So I thought probably trying out my side hobby would be good for myself. Why acting only as a side hobby? Well because I think it could help me escape the boring routine in my life and mostly because I have more interest in Acting rather than anything else to take on as a hobby. **Q1.** At the moment, my goal is just to try to be as good as I can in Academics so that I can qualify the pre requisites needed to pursue my Masters in a University in Germany. I am also a member of a Team that's related to Autmotive Engineering so I don't really have time right now to join an Acting Club in my college. Maybe if I start acting classes while I am pursuing my Masters somewhere in Germany at the age of 22-23, would that be a good start? **Q2.** I also want to make it clear, I don't really care for fame or money that I earn in acting, at the end I just want to be able to reach a point where I am acting maybe as a guest star alongside professional actors who worked in famous TV Shows(like Stranger Things, Mr.Robot, Wednesday). So, realistically speaking, what are the chances that I might be able to reach that level before the age of 30 *considering that I will have acting not as a professional career but as a hobby?* Maybe at a later time in my life, I might consider acting as a professional career but that's too far ahead to even think about right now. Well, if you've read this till the end, thankyou for taking out your time and I hope you can give me some advice to tackle this situation I am in. I am really sorry if you can't understand my passage and I am sounding contradictory but I am just extremely confused with myself and I am finding it very hard to even compose a single meaningful sentence properly...
I got casted as Roxie Hart in my high school’s production of Chicago. Roxie Hart is one of the most notorious femme fatales in musical theatre history. She’s sultry, seductive, and a master manipulator. My director is a huge believer in how real life experiences effect your acting ability. Yet, I have never even had my first kiss. I act very confident and I’m also 18 so a lot of people probably assume otherwise about me. I’m very embarrassed about how inexperienced I am. I was able to get through auditions because I’m a talented singer and dancer. Although I know I am bound to have to talk about sex in some capacity at rehearsals and have to kiss and be intimate with the Fred Casely actor. I also am just fearful of “acting like a virgin”…whatever that means. I haven’t even figured out if I am attracted to men at all so I don’t want to look visibly uncomfortable when the actors touch me or vice versa. Roxie is literally my dream role and I want to give her everything i can. I can put on a pretty good sultry persona when i’m displaying Roxie’s narcissistic behavior, but the second I have to touch a man I SWEAR TO GOD. so here are my questions: How do I act like I have had sex before when I haven’t? First kiss is a stage kiss? (really like how do i navigate that) How can I become more comfortable when touching and flirting with my male cast mates during scenes? Also just general advice about playing Roxie and preparing for the role
Hi, my name is Jazmin. For about 2 years I've been really into acting/theatre. I've been taking theatre classes for 2 years now, including this year. I've been in one school play and I'm going to be in another at the end of this year. Sadly, this is my last year in high school so I'm pretty stuck. I don't have much experience but I'm willing to do anything to climb myself up. My local theaters are really expensive for me and acting classes are too. I live in south FL and there isn't much here. I just want to know how to put myself out there for gigs and roles. I need advice on how to get started. Backstage and Actors Access costs money that I don't have and so I have no clue on where to go to get started. Any help is much appreciated!
Are you a working actor with diagnosed PTSD? Do you know of working actors with PTSD? How do you support yourself through triggering scenes? Recently watched The Twelve with Brooke Satchwell playing an abused wife, when she suffered domestic abuse personally in the past. I wondered at how she looked after herself through the process of the work. She’s an incredible actor. I ask cause I have PTSD and I had it under control. I was able to do intense scenes and access what I needed to for the work and then tuck it away. I’ve just had a second child and motherhood has heightened the triggers. I have my team of professionals for support but right now I don’t know how I could get back into the work without it affecting my home life. This is a conversation I’ve never seen, so I’d love to hear your thoughts.
I am of course going to do my own research, but it would be really helpful to hear the insights from this community! I'm based in Sydney, Australia. Mosly interested in pursuing screen acting but I am also a singer. I'm tossing up these 4 places: Sydney Actors School [https://www.sydneyactorsschool.edu.au/](https://www.sydneyactorsschool.edu.au/) TAFTA The Australian Film & Television Academy [https://www.tafta.com.au/](https://www.tafta.com.au/) PAC Parramatta Actors Centre [https://parramattaactorscentre.com.au/](https://parramattaactorscentre.com.au/) AFTT Academy of Film, Theatre & Television [https://www.aftt.edu.au/](https://www.aftt.edu.au/)
TLDR at the end “Hello [REDACTED]. I'm writing to inform you that I am terminating our contract effective immediately and will not be needing your services anymore. I've been thinking a lot about your obsession with the IMDb StarMeter. I don't know who or what is telling you that it's important to focus on, but since it appears that no one else is telling you this, I want to be the first to tell you that it's not important at all and you dedicating so much time to making sure all your talent has a good score is not only sabotaging your business, but also sabotaging your talent, especially those you took off your client list on IMDb Pro because of their low scores, like you did with me. Setting aside how easily manipulatable all of it is (which I'm sure you're aware of given that you always ask me to move pictures around on my account), I've spoken to many professionals in the industry, including professional actors, talent agents, casting directors, producers, and directors (some of whom you got me auditions with) and the overwhelming consensus was that they don't look at it, nor do they find it important. I even sought advice from those who work in the thick of the Hollywood industry. They don't care about it, so why should we? I even checked the pages of AM&T, the People Store, Alexander White, and Houghton Talent (arguably the four biggest agencies in the Southeast) and all of them have talent with scores well in the millions, some as low as 12,000,000 and my score never got that low. Yet they're all still represented by their respective agencies. Same goes for the even bigger agencies based in L.A. like A3, Creative Artists, and Gersh. And the amount of work they book is in no way impacted by some score on a website. Even if you use the excuse of them not booking 'as much work as those with a higher score,' just the fact that they still have secured representation despite it and their agents don't feel so ashamed they're willing to hide that by removing them from their client list, tells you all you need to know about the Star Meter's role in this industry, at least on our level. Also, I will remind you when my score was at its lowest (around 11,000,000) I booked the [REDACTED] commercial that I did over the summer last year. If my rating was truly important, wouldn't it have made more sense to go with someone more 'popular?' On the other side, the highest my score has been was a little below 100,000. During that time (around May/June 2021), I didn't book anything, despite self-submitting to several different projects. I'm not implying that I do best when my score is low, but I am trying to point out that there's no correlation between my score and my ability to book work and make money. And if you're still not convinced, I actually did some research on this and discovered that in 2013, an actress named Shannon Guess held the #1 spot for over a week. Wanna know what her greatest work was? Sending ricin-laced letters to the president and trying to frame her husband for it. Plus, when the Johnny Depp/Amber Heard trials were going on, they were both in the top 3, and I would argue that (especially for Amber Heard) it wasn't for good reasons. And one last nail in the coffin: a week after our phone call when you informed me you took me off your client list on IMDb Pro, my score shot up to 200,000. And I didn't move a single picture. It's arbitrary. All of it. Now, this is not the only reason I'm ending our contract. For another, I'm wanting to do theatre again and I know you don't really want talent doing theatre. You even had me back out of a play in [REDACTED] that cast me, which wouldn't have paid much but given that they wrote a role specifically for me, it still kinda stings and I may never be able to do work with them again because of your decision. I get it from a business perspective. Film, TV, and commercials are where the money's at, but I just can't, in good faith, leave theatre behind, especially since I plan to start a theatre company in the future. I don't want to limit myself to one art form. Now, I don't tell you all this out of anger or bitterness or with any ill intention, I only tell you all this out of concern, so that you can get better as an agency (might even help you get SAG-AFTRA franchised since I recently discovered you are not, which is another reason for my departure, but that's just speculation, haven't a clue how it works). Of course, you have the right to run your business however you want, as do I, but I wouldn't forgive myself if I didn't speak up on this. Thank you once again for all you've done. I will forever be grateful for you taking a chance on me and getting me all the opportunities you have and most importantly, for being my first agent. I will always appreciate what you did. I wish you and [REDACTED] nothing but continued success.” I probably shouldn’t and won’t send this since I wanna leave things cordial but hypothetically speaking if I did send this, what do you think her reaction would be? TLDR- the IMDb score isn’t important, I wanna do theatre, and you’re not SAF-AFTRA franchised
If you know of a space in New York City that is conducive for class work - capable of holding about 20 people and has props that actors can use -- please let me know.
Hello! I’m a producer at a production company. My email is easy to deduce, I’m sure most folks get it by cruising LinkedIn. Multiple times a week I get a cold email from a voice actor offering their services. 100% of the time I read the first few sentences. 100% of the time I block the sender. When I was starting out as a production assistant, I got my first gigs cold emailing, so I have an incredibly soft spot for folks who put themselves out there like that. So I give every email a chance. So why do I do what nearly everyone else does when they get a cold email— why do I forever send them to the trash? Because every cold email wants ME TO DO THE WORK. Every email is the same cookie cutter garbage, with no research as to who I am or what I do, that tasks me with figuring out why I need you. My career is the product of cold emailing and I these emails make me want to pull my hair out, so PLEASE take this advice as gospel: 1. Do your research. Start with knowing my name and the name of the company I work for. Know what type of work we DO (you’d quickly learn I rarely need voice actors and save yourself some trouble, but I digress) and figure out why I would ever need to hire a voice actor. This is the most important. 2. Make a good case. This is not “I’m a good voice actor, you’d be stupid not to hire me”. This is “In the last month you’ve made a dozen videos about football for TikTok and I used to be the stadium announcer at UCLA who hyped up our fans during the game. I think your videos could not only benefit from voiceover, but I could bring a whole new level of excitement that should turn into new levels of engagement”. You can’t make a case without research, you can’t convince someone without making a strong argument. And your case should be about ADDED value. You’re experienced in this department. 3. Don’t make me do ANY WORK. If you’ve done 1 and 2, you have just saved me so much time and effort. I don’t have to do any thinking about why I need you, you have told me. I don’t have to search for any info about your relevant experience, you have just told me the ONLY thing I need to know about you. You have already proven why you’re a pro— you are being additive. The only work I need to do is listen to the sample (if you can’t guess what this sample is, good luck to you) and respond. As you write this email have in your mind constantly: “who is being asked to do the work?” If you do all 3 of these things, you are attempting to do something for me. If you don’t do ALL of these you are asking me to do something for you. If the example in #2 was the actual situation, I would save your contact at the very least. Maybe there isn’t a job right now, but if I ever needed VA, your case would be top of mind. But isn’t this a lot of work? Multiplied by 1000 emails, wouldn’t this take forever?! Anybody who wants to hire you from a cold email that sucks and is clearly cut and paste— AND doesn’t know any other voice actors in Los Angeles— isn’t someone you want to work for anyway. They aren’t going to help you get the next job that makes you never have to cold email again. You only get good clients from good emails. And lastly, as a twist, to prove why research is paramount: if you looked me up at all, you’d find out that not only am I a producer at this company… but I also do all their in-house VO. Is there still a case to be made for you?
I am really stumped over stakes in acting. I've always been. I always hear / read that actors should make the stakes over what they're fighting for in each and every scene as high as they can; "life or death". I know that doesn't actually mean that if their character doesn't get what they want, they're going to die. It seems like high stakes would give way to over-the-top acting. Yet they never seem to. It seems like a huge contradictory paradox. My question is, how do I refrain from acting over-the-top when the stakes are high for my character in a scene?
My grandfather often said, "The art of selling by cutting price is not 'Salesmanship', but 'SalesmanSH\*T'. Sell your service, not your price". Voice acting requires a high level of skill and training. It takes time and practice to develop the ability to effectively convey emotion and meaning through the voice, as well as the technical skills necessary to produce clear and consistent audio recordings. Additionally, voice-over work requires a significant amount of time and effort to prepare and record. This includes researching the project, rehearsing lines, and potentially multiple takes to get the perfect recording. It is important for beginners to set fair and reasonable rates for your work, based on the time and effort required to complete a project. This helps to establish your value as a professional and ensures that you are fairly compensated for your work. By discounting your rates, beginners may not be accurately reflecting the value of their skills and the time and effort you put into your work. This can lead to undervaluing your work and potentially being taken advantage of by clients. And when you build your business on a foundation of lower paying clients, you create TWICE as much work for yourself, having to REBUILD your business with clients who pay industry standard rates. Those bottom dwellers aren't going to raise the rates they've been paying you simply because you've had a change of heart. The key is NOT to begin your voice-over business until you can compete with professionally trained voice actors who have professional quality equipment. Your impatience to get started you will only make it TWICE as hard on yourself in the long run. In other words, don't start until you're ready. Good luck!
I am a 24 year old male who wants to move to LA to pursue acting, is there anyone in this subreddit that wants to move there with me? If so, DM me here and we can talk further. Thanks!
Hello! My name is Sarah. I am 16 years old. My ultimate dream is to become a voice actress, it's what I truly want to do in the future. I'm in plenty of projects (which I am SO grateful for btw!!), but none of them are professional, most are volunteer. I am ALWAYS trying to improve my work. I really desperately want to do this. I dream all the time about voice acting for cartoons, animes, and video games. Do you guys think I have a shot? How can I improve? How can I get into the professional field?? I also sometimes fear that I am inconsistent with my skill level. Help pls! Latest Work: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI\_f5eDBnAI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI_f5eDBnAI) All Work: [https://msha.ke/moshimacaroon/#top-picks-1](https://msha.ke/moshimacaroon/#top-picks-1)
so i'm starting to work on becoming a voice actor, and i need a bit of help figuring out my setup so i live with my parents and my sister, and it gets kinda noisy, but i should still be able to work around that but my computer is a pretty hefty gaming desktop, but it so far isn't bad for recording audio, especially since my mic is pretty nice and i do all my work from my decently sized bedroom, and i would do work in my closet, but it's almost too small, full of clothes and clutter, and i don't have a laptop and i obviously can't lug my giant pc in there i also am broke as a rock and can't afford too much fancy equipment (yet) so my current setup is just my desk in an open room, a mic with a pop filter, a hefty pc desktop, and thats all. so i could use some advice for just some devices i could get in the near future to aid in audio quality, and where i should do my work efficiently the laptop thing is my biggest barrier, because i do have places i can do my work if my computer was portable i also have an ipad with a keyboard and trackpad set up if thats helpful at all i appreciate any advice, i am starting from the bottom in terms of the career part, i have acting/ theatre experience that definitely aids in my favor, that i'm not too worried about, but its just my concerning setup that i'm hung up on, if a photo is needed i can add one thanks for listening :)
I’m M18. Always loved movies my whole life. I am currently going to a community college in San Francisco majoring in Film,tv, and broadcasting. I don’t actually start my film classes till next month so Im hoping for the best. I have little to none acting experience. In my high school we had a video production class, I happened to be in it, and even got in the honors program. It was coolio I loved it, and we made little skits and segments for the school and I would always play a character and be in front of the camera. It was mostly improv, but there were few occasions I had to memorize tiny lines. I did in fact narrated a school assembly, i missed my queue for the last scene but it was overall good. I don’t know I just want to create and help create and maybe act as a superhero one day. I currently have actors access but I haven’t paid for the version I can submit. I’m not even sure if actors access is the right site to look. I know for me to “make it on the big screens” i need a agent. Where do I find one? Is there any other acting sites that can help me find calls or agents near me?
Hello all ! ☺️ We are a team of 5 final year students* from the school "Gobelins, l'école de l'image", one of top school for animation filmaking. Gobelins graduation movies are published on Youtube (https://youtube.com/@gobelins) every year. We are currently directing our graduation movie, a 5min action/drama movie. It takes place in a fantasy world inspired by Uganda and features a group of rowdy kids. We are looking for several volunteering voice actors for kids voice as well as one adult male voice. Due to our movie taking place in Uganda, we are looking in priority for voice actors with Ugandan or East Africa background. The dialogues will be english. We have a studio for sound recording at Gobelins school if you reside in Paris, otherwise if you have the appropriate setup for clean voice recording, you could do it from home :) Due to NDA we can't post too much on the movie but can send an animatic and more info/concept art to applicant. The school does not give us any budget for voice acting so unfortunatly we are looking for volunteers. But you will be free to use the movie for your voice demoreel afterward. Contact us at : clemence.drion@edu.gobelins.fr Feel free to send a voice demo if you already have one otherwise we will provide you with some test lines ;) Thank you very very much! Have a nice day and thanks for reading *our team consist of three african students and two europeans :) sorry english is not my native language!!
Hello all ! ☺️ We are a team of 5 final year students* from the school "Gobelins, l'école de l'image", one of top school for animation filmaking. Gobelins graduation movies are published on Youtube (https://youtube.com/@gobelins) every year. We are currently directing our graduation movie, a 5min action/drama movie. It takes place in a fantasy world inspired by Uganda and features a group of rowdy kids. We are looking for several volunteering voice actors for kids voice as well as one adult male voice. Due to our movie taking place in Uganda, we are looking in priority for voice actors with Ugandan or East Africa background. The dialogues will be english. We have a studio for sound recording at Gobelins school if you reside in Paris, otherwise if you have the appropriate setup for clean voice recording, you could do it from home :) Due to NDA we can't post too much on the movie but can send an animatic and more info/concept art to applicant. The school does not give us any budget for voice acting so unfortunatly we are looking for volunteers. But you will be free to use the movie for your voice demoreel afterward. Contact us at : clemence.drion@edu.gobelins.fr Feel free to send a voice demo if you already have one otherwise we will provide you with some test lines ;) Thank you very very much! Have a nice day and thanks for reading *our team consist of three african students and two europeans :) sorry english is not my native language!!
Is there anywhere to learn in-depth Shakespeare training for actors?
Hello! I did my first Actors Connection showcase yesterday for agents. I did the last page of a 6-page comedic scene, which I have been working on in my acting program. The scene has typically had the whole class laughing. I started the scene at the climax, right when I tell the guy I hooked up with that he got me pregnant. Now skip to the showcase: The agents didn't seem to get that the scene was comedic because the reader I was working off of didn't seem to get it, and the context of the scene is depressing (particularly the fact that the guy vehemently denies that he is the one who got me pregnant). Everyone I coached with said to pick up the pace because it's a back-and-forth (duh, comedy!) and also because the showcase only gives you 2 minutes per scene. The agents told me that I should have shortened the scene and raised the stakes because it didn't seem like I had enough time to really take in the gravity of the news I received in the scene and they wanted me to be even more impacted. I get it, but this was really frustrating to hear because 1) I already chopped the scene down so much 2) without the context of the whole play and a comedic reader to work off of, they seemed to have thought I should have been sobbing my eyes out by the end of the scene because of "how devastating it is that this guy won't admit he's the father." From knowing the whole play, this is not how she feels. She's more irritated and disgusted than anything and it's supposed to be funny because he's such a dumbass as a character, and 3) I WANTED to take the time to "behave" more and show the news affecting me but I had TWO MINUTES, so I didn't want to waste time pausing. The other thing is, I know that I could have gotten there emotionally if I wanted to, but I was making a choice that the character ended the scene by feeling defeated and resigned rather than irate or devastated based on the context of the play. I guess maybe I should have gone for the stronger choice because out of context it doesn't matter? I also didn't want to play the same note the entire time. I got angry in the middle of the scene, and then ended with resignation. Anyway, I am just confused about how I am supposed to really live out a fully fleshed scene in such a short amount of time. How short are the scenes you usually pick? Do you go for extremely strong emotions in a showcase? I am used to doing short sides for auditions, but at least the person watching the audition has some context and they aren't sticking a clock in my face. Maybe I need to pick a better scene that doesn't require any context? Or maybe I need to pick a really short scene so that I have time to live it out emotionally? **What strategies have worked for you?** I don't want to come off as bitter, but it's hard when you feel like you could have delivered what they wanted if you just understood what was expected of you in the first place. I am sure I also need to take some responsibility for my choices not landing. Either way, how can I prevent this from happening again?
hello! so i am a theatre actor and we have a play in 8 days. my acting partners told me that one scene we have is pretty boring and it's not ready yet. but the reason that it is boring is because of the other actress i am playing with. they are supposed to be playing a very active and funny character but because they have anxiety it's hard for them to get into that character. so my worry is that i play a very bland character that is either sad or angry. they are not enogh to lighten up those scenes in my opinion. and my question is, if they can't get into character when we are in the scene what can i do so viewers don't get bored. i am open for any help and advice. thanks in advance!
I plan on starting my professional career as an actress and screenwriter after college (so around 22 years old). I'm aware that acting is an unpredictable career and I'm fine with that, I've never been a huge fan of strict routines anyways. But I'm hoping my career can be at least 35 years, definitely would like a bit more than that, but is this realistic to hope for? I have a lot of creative goals I want to achieve and I need time, this is not a short term thing for me, it's a career. I've seen lots of non-famous actors achieve it. I'm not looking for fame or money, I love my craft and I don't even have to make a living off of acting the whole time, but I do hope to someday, but even if I have to have a day job most of the time I don't mind. I also worked on developing thick skin for all the rejection over the past few years and have gotten really good, and have learned to love auditioning and self-taping and I treat it as a chance to act and put on a mini show/film, and the idea of doing more auditions than gigs in my lifetime doesn't even bother me (although of course I hope for many gigs), on the contrary I am excited because I think of how many scripts, material and roles I will get exposed to. Same for screenwriting, I learned that not everyone will like my screenplays, but there will be many actors and producers out there who would love to bring them to life.
Long story short, I got offered my first ever agent contract. Upon review, it was very one-sided and maybe even a bit exploitative. There were definitely parts that made me nervous from a legal, financial, and career standpoint. Discussion with a lawyer friend confirmed my concerns, as well as brought up new ones. I made edits to the contract and sent them back to the agency for review. The agency came back to me and said that they would not consider any edits. Period. My questions are: Is this common? As an actor, do you just kind of have to accept that you have to eat shit and take on legal and financial risk from an agency so you can get signed? Or is this agency in particular just not great, and I have to keep looking? I'm trying to figure out how to proceed. Thanks.
I'm going to be shooting my first feature length film this summer and will be posting a virtual casting call in local Facebook groups and also sending to local university theatre programs + acting schools. I want to make sure I don't do anything considered rude or unprofessional. Here are my questions: 1. Is it frowned upon to ask for an audition tape right off the bat? I have heard several people say you should ask for headshots first. I personally don't see why it would be harmful to ask for an audition right off the bat to get the ball rolling, but if this is considered rude in some way I won't. EDIT: Also how long is too long to request an audition for? I.e. is it acceptable to ask for two different scenes across five pages? Or what is a good guideline? . 2. How descriptions is too descriptive in character descriptions? What should be my sentence limit? I have character descriptions written out but they're all very long - as long as 11 sentences for one of the leads. I feel like this may be too much. . 3. Is it unprofessional to give examples of similar movie characters in the character description? For example, this isn't related to my film but if I said this character most closely resembles Rob Riggle's, specifically in the Hangover and We're The Millers. Is this bad? . 4. It's an R rated film and I want to be as up front as possible. There are two characters that are seen post-sex, would writing something along the lines of "must be comfortable laying in bed with character x, no sex scene/stimulated sex, but there is implied after sex" be acceptable? There are also a couple of characters that smoke in the film, and so I was going to put in their description "must be comfortable smoking fake joints," does this seem fine? Lastly, there is one character that has simulated sex in a comedic way - would it be fine to write something like "has a simulated sex scene, but no nudity is required; however must be comfortable shirtless and with the scene"? . 5. I'm looking to have two virtual rehearsals and one on person rehearsal before filming. Every role besides background actors will be paid. Would it be unprofessional to ask for these two virtual rehearsals to be uncompensated and that the in person one gas will be reimbursed and there will be dinner, but no further compensation? I don't feel great about it, but I'm very limited from a budget perspective. . 6. Is there anything else you think I should know? Thanks so much in advance, I really appreciate your time!
My daughter is almost 5 and I have a hunch I should get her into acting. She has a very vivid imagination always going on for 10 minutes of directing/writing a detailed script before we play pretend/scene. I don’t have much to compare to, but she seems good at memorizing lines and when we play pretend her acting skills are pretty convincing. She absolutely loves attention, dress up, and playing pretend. She does (and loves) ballet and singing classes but I can’t say if she’s especially good or not. I don’t know anything about acting or the industry, but I would guess that it would be easier to get a shoe in the door when she is younger and might have less competition. So my questions to you are how do I know if she has some natural talent or if all kids are like this? Am I wrong to think that time is of the essence because the older she gets, the more competition she’ll have? Thanks in advance, I hope this post isn’t annoying!
I’ve been considering taking a class from like actors connection, ACE studios, etc that is taught by a casting director or casting associate. I was just wondering if anyone has personal experience or has heard of anyone who has taken one of these types of classes and had it benefit them in some way. Like getting an audition from that casting office, booking a role with them, being referred to an agent/manager, or something along those lines. I would probably do one of the classes that is multiple sessions over 2-3 weeks rather than just the one day workshop type situations.
Just to be safe, adding a TW re parents/family and visiting/holidays. Many actors can relate to moving away from your hometown to a major market to pursue your career and visiting for the holidays. For me, the distance is nearly clear across the country. I had to skip some years when I was oftentimes broke, but for most of the past 15 years I’ve made the annual week-or-so visit in the winter. I also added the TW since I’m keeping in mind (and heart) those who have lost parents/family and would love to be able to visit them even one more time, but I’ve been struggling with these feelings of sorrow and darkness when I’m approaching or at the end of the trip/visit instead of enjoying the vacation. I’m glad their health is still decent, but the thoughts of aging and death, and their house and stuff, has just become stressful versus who I was as the young woman who moved to LA with so much ambition and focus. Moving back isn’t really sensible right now since I recently started a great job that’s unique to its location, and I’m finally happy with what I do for a living and that’s huge for me and my wellness. (Plus my friends who became like family since moving to LA for acting.) Sorry that this is getting long, but this sub has always been pretty supportive as a lot of us can relate on so many things here. Has anyone else noticed a shift in your perception of visiting home year after year? Sent with love to all who experience difficult feelings during the holidays or any time.
Hey all. Like most other actors, particularly those of us who went to college or conservatory, It has been drilled into me to NEVER turn down a role. Despite this being my career, my face, and my life I’ve gone with the flow of my agent or others and been admonished for opinions or desires of my own. I have now been offered a film that I must turn down. There is no convincing me otherwise. The people making it may have the money/resources to be SAG and give everyone a nice check but their work is offensively bad and if I were to be involved in their product I would legitimately hate myself. Turning this project down means pretty good money lost for my agent. I respect my agent as a human being, I want to be professional in my conversation with them and need help approaching this respectfully. I understand my agent could drop me. I am willing to make that sacrifice. Does anyone have any advice to how to start this conversation? And please don’t encourage me to take the part, it would be like purposefully signing on to do The Room without any of the cult status. Has anyone hear had experience with turning down a bad offer?
I've been acting since i was 10 and i really want to become a professional actor. I have always wanted to be an actor ever since i was little. I don't have an agent or a manager, so I'm on my own when it comes to finding roles. I live near DC so any advice or tips to finding casting calls and landing my first gig would be very appreciated. i am an 18 year old white guy, (with braces uggghhh) I am moving to Philadelphia in august so if anyone knows of auditions in Philadelphia that starts filling in august that would also be helpful. THANK YOU for taking the time to read this and thank you even more if you decide to respond with helpful advice!
I’m currently a freshman at my local CC. I’m 19 and I’ve always known I wanted to be an actor. Did theatre camps when I was little and did drama all through middle school and high school. I’m currently working towards an Associate of Fine Arts with a concentration in theatre. I’m starting to get the feeling that I’m missing out. While I enjoy my actual acting classes, I feel like I’m waisting my time taking all these gen Ed’s. They’re not going to do anything for me when it comes to my career. Part of the reason I chose to go to college was because it was a safer plan and I got to live with my parents a little longer. But I’m starting to think that I just need to move on with my life. I know moving out to LA is scary and I’ll need to do a lot to prepare. Trust me I’ve done a lot of research. I know I’ll need a place to live. I know I’ll need a steady but flexible job. And I know I’ll probably need to enroll in more acting classes and obviously get an agent. But I’m ready to do it all. Since my parents have already paid for classes, I’m going to stick it out no matter what until I get my Associates. It would be incredibly unfair for their money to just go down the drain for nothing. But afterwards am I really missing out on anything by not getting Bachelors in Arts? Because at the end of the day we all know these arts degrees are basically worthless. But nobody studies acting for the degree. We do it to get the experience and improve our craft. And I’m starting to feel like I have enough experience and just want to go out and do the real thing. Since I’m still a freshman, I have over a year to prepare for this if it’s what I decide to do. But I want to hear your guys’ thoughts.
Dumb question but are all projects listed as feature films on actors accses movies, and are all episodic projects tv shows?
If you have an agent that submits you through breakdown express do you still have to pay for each submission if you’re doing the “free” account
What is LA really like? I may want to try out casting down there is it ok or is it ruthless? I am sixty and I was thinking of going down there to live and try out for older-man and character roles and I am 6'7" tall and British (accent) so I have some distinguishing factors meaning the pool of people going up for parts I would be up for would be way smaller. I have a modest monthly income and my daytimes are completely free and flexible (for auditions) Or am I talking donkey-doo? lol :) PS an I do LA auditions by video now?
Use this thread to post your headshots for feedback, get info on your age range/type, find good headshot photographers, ask any questions you may have about headshots. If you are posting a DIY headshot for feedback, and not just a snapshot in order to get feedback on your age range/type/etc, it is advised that you do at least some basic research on what actor headshots look like--composition, framing, lighting. You will find a Google Image search for "actor headshots" to be very helpful for this. Non-professional shots are fine for age/typecasting; please keep in mind that one picture is a difficult way to go about this. Video of you moving and speaking would be ideal, but understandably more difficult to post. ​ For what it's worth, the branding workshop at SAG-AFTRA recommends a five-year age range. That's inclusive, so for example 19-23, 25-29, 34-38, etc.
I have a noticeably crooked face. And it’s not just me saying that, like my upper and bottom lip don’t line up straight with each other. Can I still become an actor? This might be a dumb question but I want to know.
My career hasn’t even started yet and after introspection, it seems I’ve behaved liked an toxic unhinged harasser (purely platonic, nothing sexual) towards an actress friend. I can’t apologize to her since she’s blocked me. So, I know I’m being a navel-gazing selfish and self-centered person by saying this but ; should I give up on acting ? Cuz now I fear getting cancelled if I ever make it.
There are certain agencies (on my wish list) that I follow on Instagram to see what their clients are up to. They post a lot of "booked it" stories and posts on behalf of their clients. I like them because it makes me happy to see fellow actors booking. But I wanted to ask: will it affect my chances of signing with any of these agencies if I like their posts? I always thought that they'd want people to like their posts, and it's useful for me because if I want to get back to the post and research the show or the actor, it's easy to find.
Not huge on stage performances. I know a lot of these MFAs are for more stage acting. I'm planning to take an intro acting class at my local community college. I already have an undergraduate degree in an unrelated field.
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